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AER
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« on: November 21, 2006, 10:13:17 PM »

I recently came into the Church and had my first confession.  I had been dreading it but as the time got closer I decided I would do it the most honest way I could.  I found the experience wonderful, freeing and completely filled with grace. 

Because I want to get over the "newness" of this and get to a place where I feel comfortable going to Confession, I want to go again soon (within a month) before I have a chance to start feeling nervous again.  But my question is - I don't know what sorts of things I should be bringing into the confessional.  I took care of all the "big ones" and have no plans on committing any (more) mortal sins any time soon.  Do "feelings" count?  I "felt" angry with my spouse but I didn't say anything to him.   

This probably sounds "silly" to you old-timers but is there a list of sins I could look through?  Not that I plan on confessing to something I'm not guilty of but just something that will give me a place to start - just till I get the hang of it.  I think confession / reconciliation is the most wonderful thing ever it's just that I don't quite "get" how to do it. 

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
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Deacon Anthony
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2006, 02:06:09 PM »

Feelings can count but not necesarily.  Smiley Sin is an act of the will so if u were really angry, whether or not u said anything, then it's a sin. Here is a web site that may help u in determining ur sins. 

http://www.fatima.org/essentials/requests/examconc.asp
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Charles
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2007, 01:19:00 PM »

AER,

I'm one of those old time catholics and I assure you that your feelings about confession are legitimate and good, very good.  We don't have to wait to commit a mortal sin to go to confession.  I personally have re-discovered the abundant graces that are received in the confessional.  Even if you percieve that you may not have sins to confess, it is alright to go to confession and speak with the priest about your intranquilities as it pertains to venial sins or sins of omission.  Remember, (and this is true of everyone) the moment in which we think that we are sinless, we have already sinned of pride.  Don't be too hard on yourself because of this.  The desire to seek the graces of the renewable sacrament of confession (or penance) is a good one.  For myself, I prefer to go to confession once a week.  Usually before mass.  This works for me.  Every two weeks or monthly may be good for you.  Just remember, frequent confession is better than just once or twice a year.  Infrequent confession tends to make us forget the power and grace in this beautiful and renewable sacrament.
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
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Amy
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 08:30:47 PM »

Feelings can count but not necesarily.  Smiley Sin is an act of the will so if u were really angry, whether or not u said anything, then it's a sin. Here is a web site that may help u in determining ur sins. 

http://www.fatima.org/essentials/requests/examconc.asp
Deacon,
I guess i don't understand your previous message & could use some clarification...Are you saying it's a sin to be VERY angry, as opposed to being only a little angry? Or that it's a sin to say something when ur angry?  I read the examination of conscience on the website & it didn't list "anger" as a sin, only feelings of hatred and revenge. I think it's important in marriage to verbalize feelings in a loving, respectful way, for example, "I feel angry when you..." or "I feel disappointed when you..." otherwise nothing gets resolved, ur above post makes it sound like that is a sin. Also I be beleive it's possible to be very angry @ someone, but not harbor feelings of revenge or hatred. Are you saying anger in that case is a sin?
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Deacon Anthony
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 02:14:05 PM »

Feelings can count but not necesarily.  Smiley Sin is an act of the will so if u were really angry, whether or not u said anything, then it's a sin. Here is a web site that may help u in determining ur sins. 

http://www.fatima.org/essentials/requests/examconc.asp
Deacon,
I guess i don't understand your previous message & could use some clarification...Are you saying it's a sin to be VERY angry, as opposed to being only a little angry? Or that it's a sin to say something when ur angry?  I read the examination of conscience on the website & it didn't list "anger" as a sin, only feelings of hatred and revenge. I think it's important in marriage to verbalize feelings in a loving, respectful way, for example, "I feel angry when you..." or "I feel disappointed when you..." otherwise nothing gets resolved, ur above post makes it sound like that is a sin. Also I be beleive it's possible to be very angry @ someone, but not harbor feelings of revenge or hatred. Are you saying anger in that case is a sin?

Whoever is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment" - Matthew 5:22

"Now the works of the flesh are plain: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the Kingdom of God." - Galatians 5:19-21

"A mild answer calms wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger." - Proverbs 15:1

As with many other passions, anger (or wrath) may be an emotion or an attitude. If all anger is sinful, how is it that God is described as "angry" in the Old Testament (the Hebrew Scriptures), or that Jesus became angry at least twice according to the Gospels. Of course, some people say Jesus wasn't really angry as he drove the money changers out of the temple with "a kind of whip made of cords" (John 2:15). Read the Gospel: Jesus was angry. If Jesus got angry, it must be right, because he never sinned. So we can get angry.

Some say we can't control our emotions, but we "choose" our emotions from our "emotional toolbox." If anger is in our heart already, events will bring it out. If we have let God give us peace, our reaction to events will reflect this: we may respond to offenses or accidents with humor, kindness and patience, because that is what is in our heart.

But if we still have anger in our heart, what do we do in the meantime? Once the anger wells up and starts to spill out, we have an ongoing decision: let it out or refuse to participate. This is not a matter of holding it in. It is a matter of starving it, refusing to feed it. Anger always dissipates eventually, so we can just let it happen sooner by not holding on to it and refusing to enjoy it. People enjoy their anger. Think about it; you will find it is true. Even though we may feel terrible later, we enjoy the power of anger while we are giving ourselves to it. We get an adrenaline rush and forget all the bad things about ourselves.

Every angry person feels righteous. When we are angry we concentrate on the object of it and forget everything else. It is Judgment Day, and we are playing God. Parenting may be the worst situation of all. An angry parent faces a small, helpless child and truly is an awesome force. The child can be frightened beyond belief, and the parent may come to enjoy this feeling, especially if the parent feels helpless in the face of others. Supervisors can intimidate employees in the same way, teachers do it to students, administrators to teachers, and schoolmates even bully each other.
The key is that only the righteous have a "right" to be angry. Appropriately, this is called "righteous indignation." There are rare cases where we are angry for the right reason: when we hear someone make racist remarks, lie to destroy another's reputation, or witness a heinous crime. However, none of us is truly righteous: we do wrong things, too. Given our own sins, we are in no position to judge, and righteous anger implies a kind of judgment, at least of an action. We aren't called to stand high above other people but with them. We fail, and we desire compassion and patience from others.

Many times, our anger over situations is not due to the situations' actual morality, but is because they conflict with our own ideas about what is good. And our ideals are not always God's. A good deal of self-examination is required: why am I really angry? Is God angry about this? If not, do I claim to be more righteous than God?
This may be the most helpful idea in dealing with anger: is God angry about it? We had better know God very well, though, or we may simply make God in our own image and then have Him bless everything we do.

So, righteous anger is simply a matter of agreeing with God over serious matters. However, God really doesn't need our anger, so something more productive is called for: action on behalf of good. In all the Gospel, Jesus spent almost no time being angry, and in each case it was very short lived. If we are angry often, it is most probably not righteous anger.

Lastly: if we believe we should be angry because we want to agree with God, then are we also compassionate for the same reason? Do we agree with His mercy? Do we genuinely try to follow the full Gospel or do we pick and choose? Are we prepared to humble ourselves for the sake of others as Jesus did? Do we remember God's patience and mercy in His dealings with us?

The safest course is first to imitate God's mercy, compassion, humility, gentleness and above all, love. When these are in our hearts, perhaps we may also have some righteous anger.
But there probably won't be room, and we probably won't miss it.

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